The Little Pebble and Saint Joan of Arc

by Glenn Talaue

December 9, 2000

This article was originally posted on our eGroup Alliance of Truth. It is another masterful composition which draws out a comparison with the Trial of Saint Joan of Arc -- and the ecclesiastical Commission charged with investigating the Little Pebble. The 63 Questions imposed by the Commission on the 21st October 2000 are exposed in the light of the similar questions put to Saint Joan of Arc. This is well worth your reading and meditation. - Fr. Malcolm Broussard

It is 8th Century Europe and Baeda, a monk and theologian, had just prophesied. The day is cloudy England. Its future is in continuous revolution. Baeda takes another look at the rolling hill where stands Saint Michael’s tower before coming down to whisper a prayer in front of the Thorn tree. Legend has it Joseph of Arimathea planted the Thorn of Christ there and it germinated into the tree Baeda now enrapts himself in prayer. A strong gush of wind jolts away his affixed gaze to the heavens and he goes off to write some more.

The wind is met by another, forcing it towards Saint Michael’s tower and dies, spent of energy. Ambrosius Myrrdin is not foreign to these winds in 6th Century England. For reasons unknown, he looks at the growing thorn tree of the stranger of Arimathea, then, without physical cause, he smiles with gaze fixed into the future. He had prophesied, only another to add to his growing testament.

Baeda, the Father of English History, known as Venerable Bede, prophesied France would be lost by a woman and saved by a virgin from the oak forests of Lorraine. Ambrosius Myrrdin, more popularly known by our world today as Merlin, said a virgin would come and ride on the backs of the archers and against them.

These two prophecies from the prophets of their times were used against Saint Joan of Arc by Bishop Cauchon during her Trial. Even though mankind can only benefit from the prophets of its time, they burnt the Pucelle whom the people affectionately referred to as The Maid. In a Trial that served no purpose but to fuel Bishop Cauchon’s insatiable despisal, o yes, Bishops are capable of that too, for Saint Joan of Arc and his abeyance to the English. A trial that should never see the light of day again.

12th Century saint, Malachy, prophesied more than 100 popes before his time. The last pope being Petrus Romanus. "In the final persecution of the Holy Roman Catholic Church there will reign Peter the Roman, who will feed his flock among many tribulations; after which the seven-hilled city will be destroyed and the dreadful Judge will judge the people." – St. Malachy 1139-1140 AD. To date, over 300 seers all over the world have confirmed the Little Pebble would be Petrus Romanus.

The Trial began on the 21st of February 1431 and lasted until the 23rd of May of the same year. It was roughly a trial that lasted 90 days and in the space of a week after the Trial ended, the English soldiers burnt her. Bishop Cauchon is a member of the Roman Catholic Church. If he was to acquiesce with his inner demons, he would have to operate within its walls. He connived, he threatened, he set traps, he deceived, he did all this for the sake of getting rid of this peasant girl. But he was not victorious. Despite the Trial and all the tactics he used at his disposal, the little girl was aided by his own kind, though reprimanded. Her answers and deeds spoke for themselves. The English soldiers saw the weakness and the hole in the Bishop’s blueprints. They were not bound by the same nails as he was. So, without sentence from the secular judges, the soldiers marched her to her death.

There were 25 meetings over the 90 day period of the Trial and even more meetings not officially acknowledged but whose contents were used to condemn her. The Little Pebble has only met once with the Commission. Does the Commission believe that one meeting is enough? In Bishop Cauchon’s eyes, to be able to call what he was doing legitimate, he had to follow the process. Now that process involved a great deal of communication with Saint Joan of Arc personally if they were to do what was proper in the eyes of the Church. The Trial that nullified Saint Joan of Arc met more than 115 times, heard 115 witnesses, accepted more than 90 written testimonies, recalled 33 witnesses again for clarification, and it took 7 months before they came to a conclusion. How many times will the Little Pebble be called? How many witnesses will be personally heard? How many written testimonies will be entered into their investigation? In Saint Joan of Arc’s trial all the written testimonies were used. In the Little Pebble’s case, there are 2000 testimonies submitted to the Commission. Will they recall witnesses for clarification? How long will it take for the Commission to move?

Saint Joan of Arc went through situations because of Bishop Cauchon we hope never to see again.

"Owing to this opinion I incurred the wrath of the Bishop, who cited me to appear before him. …my friend, wrote to me that I was arrested in consequence of the Opinion I had given…" – Maitre Nicolas De Houppeville, Bachelor in Theology, of the diocese of Rouen.

Maitre Nicolas’s Opinion was "I could not see how they could properly proceed, because those opposed to her were acting as Judges, and she had already been examined by the Clergy of Poitiers and the Archbishop of Reims…" Similarly, we pray for a fair investigation regarding the Little Pebble and hope accounts of so many bishops and cardinals, pro-Little Pebble, will be taken into consideration. "The Order, indeed, has the support and respect of many of the Hierarchy of the Catholic world, for the fruits of the Order is known everywhere. I have forwarded many references to that fact from letters sent by Cardinals, Archbishops, Bishops, Priests and Religious. The Order, too, has received some approvals from Cardinals and Bishops – this in itself would indicate, would it not, that the fruit of the Order is good?" – Little Pebble, Prophet, Order of Saint Charbel.

"…but allowed myself to affix my signature, under compulsion from the Bishop of Beauvais. ….the Bishop forced me to subscribe as others had done, saying that otherwise some ill will would befall me for having to come to Rouen." – Maitre Guillaume Delachambre, Master in Arts and Medicine.

"I believe that the Bishop of Beauvais undertook the Trial brought against Jehanne in the matter of the Faith because he was a Counselor of the King of England." – Maitre Thomas De Courcelles, S.T.P., Canon of Paris.

"Then Jehanne said to Bishop: Ah! You will certainly write what is against me, and will write nothing that is for me. This submission was not registered, and there ensued in the assembly a great murmur." – Bro. Ysambard De La Pierre.`

"…sometimes they interrupted the inquiry, going from one subject to another, that they might make her change her purpose." – Messire Jean Lefevre, Bishop of Demetriade, Order of Saint Augustin in the Convent at Rouen.

"I remember that incomplete questions were often put to Jehanne, and many and difficult interrogations were made together; then, before she could answer one, another would put a questions; so that she was displeased…" – Massieu

"…Jehanne was interrupted at almost every word, while she was speaking of her apparitions: Certain secretaries were there –two or three- of the King of England, who registered, as they chose, her words and depositions, omitting all her defence and all which tended to exonerate her." – Manchon, the scribe of the Trial who chose to transcribe faithfully.

"…the examiners put to her the most subtle questions they possibly could." – Manchon, the scribe of the Trial who chose to transcribe faithfully.

"Answer: As for question 48: you go from one subject in Question 47 to the same subject of Question 46 – where is your objectiveness and coherence? This also applies to Question 49." – Little Pebble, Prophet, Order of Saint Charbel in Nowra, Australia.

The Trial asked her 494 questions. Saint Joan of Arc gave 542 answers. She was not allowed an Advocate or a Promoter. Those that took compassion were threatened with drowning and the sword. Of the 494 questions, 287 questions or 58% of the Trial had nothing to do with the ‘purpose’ of the Trial. Of the same Trial questions, 191 were asked only to satisfy their curiosity and to garner military intelligence of her victories. That is 38% of wasted questions that had no bearing on the Trial. Of the 63 questions the Commission asked the Little Pebble, how many should have been there and how many should not have been? Of the 63 questions, 56 questions or 88.88% should not have been asked and did not have any bearing or relevance to the investigation at hand. Of the 63 questions of the Commission, 30 questions or 47.62% were wasted questions. If we get canonical about the questions, none of these questions were appropriate. If we bend the rules, only eight questions were suitable and legal. That’s just 12% of the interview. There were 26 questions or 41% that directly insulted the Little Pebble and is a discredit to Catholic Teaching. As Catholics, this should not be the case. But as Catholics also, Saint Joan of Arc should never have been Tried by the Church.

"I think the 8 or so questions that were appropriate have just been the preliminary themes for the further questions –never asked- which I feel should have dealt with the Catholic identity of the Little Pebble including his previous involvement in the Diocese in his earlier years. Secondly, I think the actual content of the Messages should have been the bulk of the questioning. Thirdly, the Fruits of the Apparitions and in the personal life of the Little Pebble. At some point the testimony of the many believers to corroborate the truth must be focused on." – Fr. Malcolm Broussard, Spiritual Director, Order of Saint Charbel, Nowra, Australia.

Saint Joan of Arc was accused in the 70 Articles of Accusations. The Articles were based on the 494 questions asked. 31 Articles or 44% of the Articles are decrees based on loaded questions. Of the 70 Articles, seventy were outright lies because it contradicted Saint Joan of Arc’s answers. The 70 Articles was later summarized to 12 Articles of Accusation. It was summarized after her death. 75% of these new Articles only showed up after her death. 75% of these new Articles were based on bombed-up questions. By bombed-up questions, I mean questions with the conclusion already in the question.

98% of the 542 answers of Saint Joan of Arc were completely ignored. The other 2% acknowledged were answers to her name and where she came from. 100% of her answers relating to the Articles of Accusation were completely ignored. In other words, no pun intended, with or without her words, they would have hanged her anyway. So in truth of fact, they hung her based on the Trial questions and not on the Trial answers.

With the little information the Commission has been able to gather from the one hour meeting with the Little Pebble, what do they hope to accomplish? The Trial spent 170 hours officially with Saint Joan of Arc and another 130 hours unofficially. The Nullification Trial of Saint Joan of Arc took 1,680 hours officially to come to their verdict that Saint Joan of Arc was innocent of the charges concocted by Bishop Cauchon and his puppet Commission.

The Little Pebble has received recognition from the Church in the form of an investigation on the 11th of September 1999. An investigation he had pained to see to fruition. The commission would not be formed until 7 months later. Before the commission was set up in May 2000, the Bishop had already sent out a decree against the Little Pebble. The actions do not make sense. Neither did the Trial of Saint Joan of Arc.

The Commission:

You continuously claim fidelity to the Holy Father and yet many of the claims you make and practices you undertake are contrary both to church Teaching and the Canon Law of the Church. Do you see the anomaly of your position?

The Trial:

The Accused had fallen into many diverse and detestable errors which reek of heresy. She had said, vociferated, uttered, published and inculcated within the hearts of the simple, false and lying propositions allied to heresy, even themselves heretical. Contrary to our Catholic Faith and its principles, to Gospel rules, and to the Statutes established or approved by General Councils; propositions, contrary not only to the Divine Law but also to Canon and Civil Law; propositions scandalous, sacrilegious, contrary to good manners, offensive to Pious ears: she had furnished help, counsel and favor to the people who dogmatically, affirmed, or promulgated such propositions.

Little Pebble:

I don’t agree with your statement…. My teachings are in accordance with the Church, and have always been.

Saint Joan of Arc:

I deny it, and on the contrary affirm that I have always upheld the Church so far as it lay in my power.

The Commission:

I have heard that there is to be or already has been an ordination to Priesthood of one of your members this year. Is this true?

The Trial:

What have you don’t with your mandrake?

[Note: A mandrake is a paraphernalia of a sorcerer. A famous preacher of the time spoke against it and many had been burned at the stake as a consequence.]

Saint Joan of Arc said she has never had one. Nevertheless, the Commission, in their final verdict, had this to say:

Article 1. Jeanne was in the habit of carrying about with her a mandrake, hoping thereby to secure fortune and riches in this world, she, in fact, believed that the mandrake has the virtue of procuring fortune.

[Note: Both questions, the question of the Commission and the question of the Trial are based on suspicion. The commission of the Trial ignored the answer of Saint Joan of Arc totally and concluded heresy based on suspicion.]

Little Pebble answer:

No; there was to be an Ordination but this man died this week, obviously he is not a Priest – but that was in the plan yes.

Your statement implied a third party was involved, therefore it is based on suspicion and hearsay. A Legal Court Hearing or statement of question coming from yourself, being a Canonist, cannot ask such a question unless it is fact – then it must be presented as a statement of fact, not hearsay.

The Commission:

The canonical protection for religious who cede property only and do not renounce it are all omitted in your ‘constitution.’ The intention to defraud people of their money and property becomes clear in the last paragraph of general Introduction, where it emerges that unless a person making vows for one year only renounces all possessions, they cannot remain in the group. There is constant reference to the members’ need to detach themselves from all possessions. This reiteration leads to the uneasy suspicion that the purpose of the ‘Order’ is to defraud people of their money and goods for the benefit of William Kamm. What do you say to this?

The Trial:

Article 55. Jeanne had abused the revelations and prophecies she said had come from God, to procure for herself lucre and temporal profit; by means of these pretended revelations, she had acquired great riches, a great show and great estate in officers, horses, and attire; she had obtained great revenues for her brothers and relations, imitating in this the false prophets, who, to acquire temporal gain or to obtain the favor of kings, were accustomed to pretended that they had had revelations from God on things which they knew would be to the taste of their princes; abusing the divine oracles, she had thus attributed to her.

Little Pebble answer:

I deny that totally. You have made a judgement upon me, accusing me of fraudulently taking money and property from people….. of these members I have supplied 80% of them with their homes, their schooling, their wages, their material belongings…..

Saint Joan of Arc answer:

I asked nothing from my king, except good arms, good horses, and money to pay my household.

The Commission:

How does Our Lady communicate with you?

How do you know it is She?

The Trial:

The Voice that you say appears to you, does it come directly from an Angel, or directly from God; or does it come from one of the saints?

How do you know if these were the two saints? How do you distinguish one from another?

Little Pebble answer:

Well I see the Blessed Virgin Mary in vision, just like I see someone physically who actually appears in front of me. [Regarding how you know it is Our Lady] …..because of what She says and how She presents herself also the warmth and the light that I receive from the vision.

Saint Joan of Arc answer:

The Voice comes to me from God; [Regarding how she knows] By the greeting they give me. It is seven years now since they have undertaken to guide me. I saw them with my bodily eyes as well as I see you.

The Commission:

Would you say that you have been redeemed?

The Trial:

Do you know if you are in the grace of God? Have you felt assured of being saved and of not being damned to Hell?

Little Pebble answer:

I believe that I am saved provided that I love and serve God in the best way in my conscience before God and His Church.

Saint Joan of Arc answer:

If I am not, may God place me there; if I am, may God so keep me. I should be the saddest in all the world if I knew that I were not in the grace of God. But if I were in a state of sin, do you think the Voice would come to me?

The Commission:

On what grounds would your sexual relations with women not be judged sinful?

The Trial:

Jeanne did behave in an unseemly manner with men, refuses the society of women, wishes to live with men only, to be waited upon by them, even in her own room and in the most private details: a like thing had never been seen nor heard of a chaste and pious woman.

The Commission:

Do you see the Church as having a right to determine whether these visions are genuine?

Are you prepared to submit to the authority of the Diocesan Bishop in these matters?

Are you aware that failure to submit to the authority of the Diocesan Bishop may lead to a canonical trial of yourself before a Church Tribunal?

The Trial:

Will you, in respect of all your words and deeds, whether good or bad, submit yourself to the decision of our Holy Mother the Church?

If the Church Militant tells you that your revelations are illusions, or diabolical things, will you defer to the Church?

If you will not believe in the Church, if you will not believe that Article of the Creed, ‘the Church, One, Holy, Catholic’ you will be declared a heretic and, by other judges, punished with the pains of fire.

Bishop Cauchon’s motives were to discredit the King of France for following a lunatic woman. In order to accomplish this, he had to concentrate on who could be touched. In this case, peasant Saint Joan of Arc was the victim. Being an Apostle of Jesus Christ, could a Bishop be so corrupt as history has portrayed Bishop Cauchon? We only have the words of those who worked closely with him. Witnesses came forth in the Trial of Nullification and spoke of Bishop Cauchon’s actions. The same actions revealed his motives.

She had to die. "The English wanted to attack Louviers and could not do it because they believed during Jehanne’s life, they could have neither glory nor success in war." – Bro. Jean Toutmoville, Order of Saint Dominic and was present in the prison during Saint Joan of Arc’s laments to Bishop Cauchon.

They compelled her to wear the dress of a woman when she had instruction from Heaven not to do so. "When she did, the English had done or caused to be done to her great wrong and violence, when she was wearing a woman’s dress; and, in truth, I saw her weeping, her face covered with tears, disfigured and outraged.’ – Bro. Ysambard De la Pierre, Order of Saint Dominic present in the Trial.

"Then one of the English took away from her the woman’s garments which she had on her, and they emptied the bag in which was her man’s dress, and threw the said dress at her, saying to her: Get up, and put the woman’s dress in the bag. And, in accordance with what he said, she dressed herself in the man’s dress they had given her, saying: Sirs, you know it is forbidden me; without fail, I will not take it again. Nevertheless, they would not give her the other, inasmuch that the contention lasted till midday, and, finally, she was compelled to take the said dress; afterwards, they would not give up the other, whatever supplications or prayers she might make." – Maitre Jean Beaupere, Master of Theology, Canon of Rouen, France.

"Among the Assessors there was complaint that Jeanne was in the hands of the English. Some of them said she ought to be in the hands of the Church; but the bishop did not care, and sent her away to the English." – Massieu

It is all recorded in History. The problem is it repeats itself more often than not! Surely no Bishop today would feel and think such ill will as to merit death on any member of its flock and all people of goodwill. But there is one Bishop who will be the false pope in the so very close time who will have as one of his high priorities the silencing of the Voices of the Heaven coming from all seers be they approved, investigated or otherwise. Certainly it is still possible for personal judgements, assessments and inclinations to become strongly influenced by the human perspective rather than reach for the Divine design.

Saint Joan of Arc was vindicated of a Trial that should never have been. In the end, her Voices would triumph. How can they abandon her when she has been faithful unto death! The case was reopened on the 7th of November in the year 1455. Just a month later on December the 12th, the Trial was opened and the d’Arc family, because of Canon Law and Procedural Fairness, was allowed a Procurator, Promoter and Advocate. Guillane Prevosteau was these and he lived, breath and defended the d’Arc family with honour, love and perpetual zeal. No one short of such a character and qualification should represent the Little Pebble.

In a span of just seven months, the d’Arc commission was able to come up with a verdict. They turned over every stone. Thirty-four witnesses were heard in Domremy and Vacoleurs, forty-one witnesses in Orleans, twenty witnesses in Paris, nineteen witnesses in Rouen, and one in Lyons for a total of 115. They were heard and their testimonies were written. How many Little Pebble testimonies have been sent to the commission? There have been 2000 testimonies in Australia, Asia-Pacific, Africa, South and North America, Canada and Europe. Has the commission investigating the Little Pebble plans to meet with most, if not all, of them in order to corroborate the Little Pebble’s statements and what is in the books of the Little Pebble?

It took just seven months to thoroughly interview and re-interview 115 witnesses in a society that relied on horses and legs, not cars, trains and planes. There was the local messenger pigeons, no phones, fax, e-mail and videoconferencing. They had scribes to write originals and write copies, while we have Windows 98, Windows Millennium Edition and the good old Xerox machine and printer. With such a technology in place, it is not impossible to conduct a thorough investigation.

The schema of such an article would not be as is written here and now, in its defensive lamentations, were the maleficence of some in the clergy not been overheard by friends. The Little Pebble sent out a press release on this information saying "It has come to my knowledge from a very high personage in the Catholic Church who recently attended a Conference of Canon Lawyers in Canberra, Australia which included Bishops. During the course of this Conference the subject of the ‘Little Pebble’s case came up, and the Commission. Those in the Conference inquired as to how to find a way to condemn the ‘Little Pebble.’"

We are coming to the end of the year 2000. The year mentioned in so many prophecies as a pivotal year. There is only 3 weeks left to this year. Many of the current faithful will be sifted yet again because nothing is happening according to individual understanding and personal interpretation. We cannot think that the case of the Little Pebble is an isolated one. We cannot be disillusioned ‘this could never happen to me or anyone I know.’ Soon, our soon, your world will vibrate in shock. The epicentre is the Vatican and the rumoured casualty is the death of Pope John Paul II. The new Pope will be sworn in and what a time of persecution it will suddenly become for the Little Pebble, seers united with him, and all seers in general.

United or not, there will be a common denominator – the devil’s soldier sits in the Holy of Holies and he means to silence the Voices heard from on High. He will denounce the Little Pebble and all like him. The only protection anyone will have is in the Magisterium of the Church. To fight and struggle using those means. Interesting to note that one of the high priorities of the false Pope is to silence Heaven via its chosen starting with the head and heart – the Little Pebble. There is no one structure and network of seers that work as one and is one in ideal and belief as there is in the Order of Saint Charbel, also known as the glory of the olive, through the Little Pebble. Member or not, knowingly or otherwise, all true seers around the world know and recognize and love the Traditions of Holy Mother Church. There are some who have similar structures but lack leadership while other systems are near complete but lack the heart of the people.

‘When it counts, are you reliable?’ said William Wallace the Scot. When the time comes and the world is in schism, when the false pope reigns and the Mystic Church is persecuted and breaks into schism, when trials such as Saint Joan’s and investigations such as the commission of the Little Pebble run rampant and stares us in the face, striking at our heart, attempting to squeeze out the life, love and spirit of God, will you let it happen? Or will your cry be unto God and those against him ‘I will not acquiesce with darkness. I stand with the Light and hold on with chains to the ship of Don Bosco’s vision.’

Maranatha! O Christ, Maranatha and come quick!

The Order of Saint Charbel
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